http://rawr.codeplex.com/ for your gear-ing purposes.

as per subject.

its a dps calculator depending on what gear + gems u equipped on.

The below shows the dps calculation with your gears & talents.

i.e. i can only hit 5.7k max max with all raid buffs activated on a 100% non-moving boss.

time to switch back to tank aiers. let me show u my powerful dps with lousy gear..

luimez wrote:time to switch back to tank aiers. let me show u my powerful dps with lousy gear..

Ret is gay. so its different

5.7k is very low!! I guess Fury is much more efficient for dpsing multiple targets.

Answer - lets have one of the warriors go arms!!!! Need the physical damage debuff!!!

Hungryjack wrote:5.7k is very low!! I guess Fury is much more efficient for dpsing multiple targets.

quite, and actually my gear is already mostly 245 except for feet & trinkets.

I did a gear check with Rawr, if i add in the easiest farmable trinket (NES) + feet (grinning) which comes from FOS & HOR.

The dps calculated will reach 6.0 - 6.2k *if i remember correctly* but the NES just dont drop for me!!! i have farm HFOS for the 32th time!

As for multiple targets, i agree with u totally, for dps warrior, we rule in 2-4 target fights, i.e Twins/ Anub/ Lord Jax which if you think about it, alot of fights have multiple adds for us to cleave/ WW @. So we are still particularly useful in that area.

Ken, I told u I dont mind going Arms, but abit too late liao. hahaha

Aiers wrote:
Ken, I told u I dont mind going Arms, but abit too late liao. hahaha

I never reject you wat... I just asked you to play what you prefer first cause I didn't want to force anyone to play a spec they dislike. What's the dps diff for Arms war based on RAWR?

not so much as dps difference but rather gear difference.

arms needs more hit, & dont need expertise as much, more arp

fury only need 164 hit rating, 26 expertise is a must, more str/ crit, arp only if you can hardcap it which require alot of gear.

discounting playing factor:-

if u have noob gears, arms do more.

if u have better gears, fury scales better.

why i say too late is because, i already start gearing as fury XD

Aiers wrote:not so much as dps difference but rather gear difference.

arms needs more hit, & dont need expertise as much, more arp

fury only need 164 hit rating, 26 expertise is a must, more str/ crit, arp only if you can hardcap it which require alot of gear.

discounting playing factor:-

if u have noob gears, arms do more.

if u have better gears, fury scales better.

why i say too late is because, i already start gearing as fury XD

so much pain n mafan...why dun u turn ur tree into a lazer chicken and u can do 7k DPS easily!

one TOGC run + one ICC run can liao!

There can only be 1 lazer chicken!

I don't mind speccing feral dps just for fun though...

Aiers wrote:not so much as dps difference but rather gear difference.

arms needs more hit, & dont need expertise as much, more arp

fury only need 164 hit rating, 26 expertise is a must, more str/ crit, arp only if you can hardcap it which require alot of gear.

discounting playing factor:-

if u have noob gears, arms do more.

if u have better gears, fury scales better.

why i say too late is because, i already start gearing as fury XD

So anyway, I thought I'd run my spreadsheet and see how much benefit the phys vulnerability debuff gives me - I was quite surprised to learn its only a 100 dps diff. Assuming there are 10 phys dpsers in the raid (not just range vs melee, cause hunters do phys damage whilst some melee classes do a bunch of magic damage), that prob only works out to 1,000 dps (very simple math here... I could be sorely mistaken). Which means as long as the dps diff between arms and fury exceed 1,000, then it prob makes sense for the warriors to come in fury... more importantly though, you lads better keep sundering cause that's actually a lot more important!!!

Orhnee wrote:

Aiers wrote:not so much as dps difference but rather gear difference.

arms needs more hit, & dont need expertise as much, more arp

fury only need 164 hit rating, 26 expertise is a must, more str/ crit, arp only if you can hardcap it which require alot of gear.

discounting playing factor:-

if u have noob gears, arms do more.

if u have better gears, fury scales better.

why i say too late is because, i already start gearing as fury XD

so much pain n mafan...why dun u turn ur tree into a lazer chicken and u can do 7k DPS easily!

one TOGC run + one ICC run can liao!

lazer chicken still dont do as much dps as a good fury warrior imo.

*looks at hungryjack*

Aiers wrote:

Orhnee wrote:

Aiers wrote:not so much as dps difference but rather gear difference.

arms needs more hit, & dont need expertise as much, more arp

fury only need 164 hit rating, 26 expertise is a must, more str/ crit, arp only if you can hardcap it which require alot of gear.

discounting playing factor:-

if u have noob gears, arms do more.

if u have better gears, fury scales better.

why i say too late is because, i already start gearing as fury XD

so much pain n mafan...why dun u turn ur tree into a lazer chicken and u can do 7k DPS easily!

one TOGC run + one ICC run can liao!

lazer chicken still dont do as much dps as a good fury warrior imo.

*looks at hungryjack*

This sounds damn like a challange to me! Show him jack!

Aiers wrote:

Orhnee wrote:

Aiers wrote:not so much as dps difference but rather gear difference.

arms needs more hit, & dont need expertise as much, more arp

fury only need 164 hit rating, 26 expertise is a must, more str/ crit, arp only if you can hardcap it which require alot of gear.

discounting playing factor:-

if u have noob gears, arms do more.

if u have better gears, fury scales better.

why i say too late is because, i already start gearing as fury XD

so much pain n mafan...why dun u turn ur tree into a lazer chicken and u can do 7k DPS easily!

one TOGC run + one ICC run can liao!

lazer chicken still dont do as much dps as a good fury warrior imo.

*looks at hungryjack*

but ur not a good fury warrior wat, so i still do more dps than u (on most fights)!

jack: i very disappointed with u, how can u let urself be sway by orhnee's comments!!!

anyway, you are posting in a DPS WARRIOR forum!!! So you are fighting in our home ground. be prepared to be owned!

i will see u in festergut this sunday.

you started it first hor!

anyway festergut is a melee dps heaven lor.. u guys dont even need to spread/clump ad nauseum!

why not compare on LDW instead?

if want to compare of cause find something that s more advantagous to me lah!!! why not marrowgar?